From: Wahkauz
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 11:24 AM
To: Good Friend
Subject: RE: More heavy Stuff
You see.
In the Bible,
Verses can be quoted.
Verses can be used.
Verses can contradict other verses.
And so who are we to say yes or no?
To say right or wrong?
If it can be resolved,
It would have been.
So the acid test,
"If a christian sprouts blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, and continually does that even at the end of his dying minutes? Can he lose his Salvation?"
Its really God's call"
The real concept that we should focus on,
Is that irregardless of whether we can unsave ourselves or be saved forever,
Is to keep to the narrow path.
To be on fire, to be NOT lukewarm nor cold…..
In that scenario, does it matter to say whehter we can unsave ourself, or be saved forever.
Because if you are on fire, you can't go wrong.
The reason why the verses were shared with you,
were to show you what God has written. (note the word "has".)
Yes, the bible has been written in a Ancient Context.
But who are its Readers?
To whom are the messages for?
Its for the contemporary people………its current…
If the Bible is read as a literature,
Then it serves no purpose.
And If the bible is read as history,
Then what purpose can the concept history bring?
History is a systematic chronicle of past events which happened,
So that contemporary folks can read, and learn about past events, and get valuable lessons out of it.
If the context is only for the Jews,
Then why bother even letting the contemporary folks know about it?
So that we can know of it as a story?
Or is there a greater meaning?
Is there something that God is trying to tell us through that story?
The Glory of God will be diminished, if today we dare to suggest
That certain bible verses are not meant for us.
If indeed that is the truth, then wouldn't God be very long winded,
Putting in a lot of context into the Bible which is of no relevance to us ( Contemporary folks). =)
Good Friend, I have a heavy burden
Because I know you are made for Great Works of God.
And I thank God that he has placed such a wonderful evangelistic Christian in the work place.
And so, as the Spirit leads me,
All I am doing is to bring the verses into your awareness. (which you might have a slight chance that you might not have came across)
The full understanding and the expounding of God's
Words for you within Luke 13………..
You have to struggle with God with that.
Ask HIM?
Why include? When it does not have any message for the contemporary people at all?
Seek HIS face……………..
I have struggled with this issue for many months…………..
And I know, HE spoke to me.
HE even gave me warning signs of what happens if I do not listen to him.
I have received prophecies of me and my wife riding horses, but in different directions.
I have received prophecies of myself burning in Hell.
And today, with that deliverance, I know the message of Salvation.
And I thank God for them,
For they remind me of how vulnerable I am.
I have failed him in many ways.
And I thank God for those prophecies.
For without them, I would have lived in self delusion for so long.
So Bro, this is a Christian walk.
Where out of Christian Love,
I am sharing all of this with you.
Dun be mistaken that this is a bashing of beliefs
Seek the Holy Spirit
And meditate on those verses.
Praise be to Jehovah Jireh!! =)
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From: Good Friend
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:34 AM
To: Wahkauz
Subject: RE: More heavy Stuff
I just find the question of asking if other people can unsave themselves very unproductive.
Jesus wants us to spread the Gospel. We are thinking of spreading bad news.
It does not glorify Jesus to tell others they can unsave themselves. I don't think that is true as I boost in the Lord. I would choose to boost about how strong His salvation is than ever being able to believe he left our actions (after we are saved) stronger than his savlation to be able to unsave ourselves. This is big time bad news and will never be the Gospel I think Jesus asks us to preach.
Preach the Gospel of Jesus.
Bad news is just not a part of it.
No one can believe in God to be bigger than who He is. Our boost in the Lord can never be untrue. Think about that.
It is ok to disagree. It is important to have a stand.
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From: Good Friend
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:22 AM
To: Wahkauz
Subject: RE: More heavy Stuff
The Lord says "He is the Truth, the Way and the Life". No one goes to the Father but through Him.
The world claim many ways. But unfortunately or fortunately, there is only one way. By Christ. By Jesus as the Christ. Thank God we have both entered and we are with Him now. He will never be telling us he does not know us.
Remember the young ruler who came to the Lord claiming to have obeyed all the laws? But he could not forsake all that he has to follow the Lord. To him the Lord is a narrow door that he could not enter.
He said in another verse that no one will be able to pluck us out of His hands. And no one will be able to pluck us out of His Father's hands.
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From: Wahkauz
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:15 AM
To: Good Friend
Subject: More heavy Stuff
Luke 13
The Narrow Door
22Then Jesus went through the towns and villages, teaching as he made his way to Jerusalem. 23Someone asked him, "Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?"
He said to them, 24"Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. 25Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading, 'Sir, open the door for us.'
"But he will answer, 'I don't know you or where you come from.'
26"Then you will say, 'We ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.'
27"But he will reply, 'I don't know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!'
28"There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out. 29People will come from east and west and north and south, and will take their places at the feast in the kingdom of God. 30Indeed there are those who are last who will be first, and first who will be last."
Regards
Wahkuaz
